Wednesday, November 18, 2015

R.R. 11/18

Please Watch This Video:


Please Answer these  Questions:

  1. What is the claim in this song. Please quote directly, unless it's implicit.
  2. What is the evidence/data that Ronson and Mars present to support their claim? Please quote directly, unless it's implicit.
  3. What is the warrant that connects the evidence/data to the claim? Please quote directly, unless its implicit.
  4. Is this model of argumentation deductive or inductive? Please support your answer.
  5.  Is the "pathway of thought" utilized here effective given both the actual audience of this piece and the audience that Ronson and Mars invent for this song? Hint: you need to tell me something about both of those audiences to appropriately answer the question.
  6. How would you describe Ronson and Mars's ethos?
  7. What is the relationship between ethos and logos?


8 comments:

  1. 1. "Uptown Funk gon' give it to ya" : he's going to get a lot of girls.
    2. "I'm too hot... hot damn" : He has expensive clothes, good dance moves, a large squad, nice cars. "Smoother than a fresh jar of skippy" : he has game.
    3. The warrant is the assumption that we (the audience) find his style and money attractive and seductive.
    4. Inductive, he states all these specific items he is wearing/ things he is doing then generalizes that they're hot.
    5. The audience they are inventing is sexy girls, and the actual audience is anyone who listens to the song. This pathway of thought is effective for their invented audience because they would find these things attractive but the actual audience would include men as well many of which would not be attracted to these things.
    6. They're famous: show fans in concert scene at end, and they are wearing the things they are describing so clearly they know what they're talking about.
    7. They use the ethos to support the logos: use who they are (their name/fame) to back up the fact that these specific actions work. Like, they say they're wearing St. Laurent to back up their hotness and they use their fame to say hey obviously this is working for us so you should do it too.
    Names: Sydney Mastalerz, Rachel Norris, Jo Abbott, Emily Avery

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  2. 1. "Uptown Funk gon' give it to ya"
    2. "Make a dragon want to retire, man" and "Smoother than a fresh jar of skippy" and "Got chucks on with St. Laurent" and "Gotta kiss myself I'm so pretty"
    3. "I'm too hot (hot damn)" and "Don't believe me just watch"
    4. This is deductive argumentation because the song is more focused on the general theme of "Uptown Funk gon' give it to ya" and from there that theme gets broken down
    5. It is not effective for their actual audience of the general public because he doesn't convince us enough that he is hot, he just claims it. The invented audience are the girls that they are addressing in the song, "Girls hit your hallelujah" and he is more effective with this audience because this is the audience he is going to see in person out on a Saturday night so he can persuade them with his swag and dancing rather than logical statements. The statement of "Don't believe me just watch" works for the invented audience better than the actual.
    6. Ronson and Bruno's ethos is self-established. They are creating it by stating how awesome they are and thus they know that uptown funk is "gon' give it to ya"
    7. You use your logos to build up and establish your ethos. You use factual knowledge to increase your credibility.

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  3. 1. The claim in this song is that he is good in bed.
    2. The evidence is that people know his name and know who he is, also, he is smooth, rich, and well dressed.
    3. The warrant is that he's "too hot" and wealthy, well dressed men are good in bed.
    4. This is Deductive reasoning because we know that all rich, famous, and well dressed men are good in bed, we assume that Bruno Mars is also good in bed because he is all these things.
    5. The invented audience would be the women that are going "uptown", while the actual audience is the general population. Mars gives both of his audiences the same pathway of thought, though it only really applies to his invented audience.
    6. The arrogant and cocky tone makes his claim even more believable. The upbeat music also promotes a positive mood.
    7. His logos builds his ethos. His ability to present a persuasive argument builds his credibility as a hot shot ladies man.

    -Abby, Anna, Heather, Logan

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  4. 1. "Uptown Funk you up"

    2. "I'm too hot"

    3. "Got Chucks on with Saint Laurent/ Gotta kiss myself I'm so pretty"
    "Ice cold, white gold"
    "Smoother than a fresh jar of Skippy"
    "My band about that money"
    "Stylin', wilin'"

    4. Inductive reasoning because he goes from the evidence that he is "too hot" and makes the general claim that states "Uptown Funk you up."

    5. The actual audience is the girls that walk around on the street that the guys are chasing after. The invented audience is all the people that are looking for a good time because "Uptown Funk gon' give it to ya." Given by the actual and invented audience, the "pathway of thought" does not seem effective because of how the song presents itself as silly and non-serious.

    6. Their credibility through their personal experiences of the rich, lavish lifestyle that they talk through "livin' it up in the city."

    7. Because their credibility is from personal experience, it makes their "pathway of thought" seem more logical.

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  5. 1. The claim in this song is that "uptown funk you up" and that he's "too hot" which shows that he thinks he is suave, smooth, and has style.
    2. He says he's "too hot", "in the spotlight on Saturday night" and "bitch say my name you know who I am" and the music video shows this rich lifestyle and his arrogance.
    3. The warrant is that in our culture money and good style are attractive.
    4. Deductive because this general idea that our culture values money and style is shown by the example of "Uptown Funk You Up".
    5. Its an effective "pathway of thought" because even if you don't agree with this argument it makes sense because audiences have been exposed to it in real life.
    6. Their ethos is flashy, flamboyant, and superficial.
    7. The logos makes more sense because of their ethos, you are more persuaded to agree with their logos after experiencing their ethos.
    Caroline Yano, Bailey Radenbaugh, Anthony Ledbetter, Celeste Gross

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  6. 1. 1. The claim in the song is that “uptown funk you up.” Uptown funk is a sensation that is better than all the rest and will make you feel hot. He says this explicitly when he sings, “I’m too hot.”
    2. 1. The overall tone is cocky and that he can pull of the look of wearing, “Chucks on with Saint Laurent. Got kiss myself, I'm so pretty.” Ronson and Mars are arrogant because they can pair together pieces of clothing that would not normally go together. They have sex appeal and are known by many people, which only adds to their arrogance.
    3.The warrant is that wealth determines the value of a person.
    4.The argument in inductive because throughout the lyrics, he moves from the specific to the general. The chorus includes the general idea that “uptown funk gon’ give it to ya.”
    5. Yes, it is effective.

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